Jul. 19 '11
Beef Jerky logo
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Large size - http://imglink.ru/pictures/19-07-11/63b09d8385b7eae2beb7e8f5b58db23f.jpg
Great execution, and interesting concept, but I find it a bit too gross to imagine a wound like that, and cutting and eating oneself. I get the idea, but I am not sure it fits with something that should get me hungry.
haha, great logo, amazing illy!
I agree with lumavine. Love your work and execution but as a Logo the name for one seems in bad taste and the image makes it even worse. looks like something PETA would use though.
Quote -We need a line drawing of a cow sitting down with one hand (hoof) shaving a thin slice of himself in the rump area with an old school barber razor. In his other hand (hoof) he%u2019s eating a piece of beef jerky. He needs to have the expression like he%u2019s enjoying himself.
^ like a carnivore/cannibal?
This is a quote from the brief:)
I'd try to "STEER" them in another direction?
crazy client, ily nice..your style:) like it:)
A good logo is one that works, and one that sells. I really don;t think this would sell much jerky. Just my opinion. Nice work though.
MIke, I so thoroughly broken cow .... :)))
But I agree
I agree it's a wonderfully executed graphic work, but have you ever heard of mad cow desease? ;)
Ha ha, I saw this when you had just uploaded it and had the sentiment of what most are saying here but wasn't sure how to say it! Damn nice execution and illo, you followed the brief, but damned if this isn't freaking me out!
Awesome logo, Sergey.
I agree with the others. The illustration and layout are top-notch, and I have a twisted sense of humor, so I find the image pretty amusing, but for a food product with a (what I assume to be) broad target market, it sends out a really bad message. I realize this was a client request specified on the creative brief, but just because a client is paying you doesn't mean they're always right. One should always take client direction with a grain of salt. Sometimes a client will propose a crazy request like this, and it's our responsibility as visual communication experts to guide them to a better solution.
If it were not so serious:)
Fair enough, it fits the brief to a tee. You did a great job.
Yeah, yeah, great job with the Anatomopathology :)
Great skills there SBD!
UPD:) - http://imglink.ru/pictures/20-07-11/71ffccf440b77da8357d3114f29f839d.jpg
Luchshee - vrag horoshego:)
the execution is stunning, u delivered greatly, but the concept is not working for me
Florin, thanks, but ... a little more humor, please)
yea maybe i'm a bit cranky this morning :))...but still :))
"The image makes it even worse"
Whoa Whoa Whoa.... I'm the client, and just to clear the air...
I think that Sergey is an amazing, top-notch designer, without question. That is the reason we decided to reach out to him to potentially work with him. BUT, there was a huge communication barrier, which is further illustrated but the execution and treatments placed on the logo. We decided to pass on the prospects of working with this designer, as we felt our vision would get lost in translation. With remarkable ambition and exception of a green light, SB designed what he envisioned, which is honestly a stunning piece, but not what we envisioned and not at all in line with the company's image. This logo is 100% NOT the direction we wanted to take the image of the company. Furthermore, there was NEVER a formal brief supplied to the designer, only informal aim in the form of a short email.
I appreciate everyone's comments and found them invaluable.
On a side note Sergey, nice work, but in the name of basic, moral business and copyright practices, please remove my company's name off of your work.
Thank you.- Slice Of Life
Well on that note, you could always take another stab at this, Sergey, and rename it to be "Slice of Calf." :)))
This did seem too bizarre for a client to want the literal translation of "slice of life" But if you can get rid of the whole cannibalism theme going on, it makes a great beef jerky mark.
I didn't think it could get more strange. I was very wrong.
Man, this has to be a first. A concept (understandably) lost in translation. And another example of what sounds like a client wanting to see a logo before agreeing to pay for the work. Logos are not shoes that you can try on. It is a service that you have to pay for. But not just any service; a service that will increase your brand value tenfold if done correctly.
Great points about the value of a logo design, however I think the client said while Sergey might have been given a short description of their need he was never given any green light to proceed.
Is this design a result of crowdsourcing? I have a feeling it was a logo design contest marked "private" and "Slice of Life" beef jerky company doesn't want the world to know they participated in a contest. This client seems a little too wary of having their name on this design, and my guts tell me something's off here. Plus, who conversates via e-mail casually and asks for spec work nowadays? Usually contestholders.
Thank you Sean!
So....I take it, SB, by your non-response to my question...that this was a crowdsourcing project?
Thank you for appreciating my work.
But I have 30 minutes to translate this brief ... This is really a problem.
I could not think that I am translating exactly what you see now ...
I asked my friend - to confirm my translation ... and I sent you a diagram.
Then I started to laugh .... and a lot of long))))
Doubt it was a crowdsourcing thing, but it's happened to me before where a client has made contact with me, talked about the project, talked about pricing (this is the key area where you have to make everything clear), and began doing work. Did some very nice and detailed comps of several different logos for them, which they unfortunately didn't like. They decided to go with a logo that their friend's daughter made in powerpoint, and that because of this they didn't have to pay me for the work done. Fought tooth and nail to get it out of them and did eventually, but it is so frustrating that many clients see the 'green light' at about 85% of the way through the logo design process. If I've learned anything in this field it is to be as meticulous as you possibly can be about pricing BEFORE you actually do any work for them.
I have not even had time to talk about the price .... I started to laugh:)
I'm sorry that I will not answer.
This was not the beginning and not the end of the project. It was - laughing
hahaha :)) this is crazy/dope. why would anyone ask for something like this? but stiill, congrats, you have really depicted what they asked for. can't stop laughing :))
@Nahan, I couldn't agree more. These discussions have always been important, but since the Internet has made it easy for clients to work with designers whom they've never met in person - and sometimes from halfway across the globe - it becomes increasingly important for designers to protect themselves. It's too easy to get taken advantage of out there. Every designer should make prospective clients fill out 1) a creative brief; 2) a client questionnaire (which will give you lots of insight into who exactly your potential client is and what demographics they serve); and 3) a signed contract with very detailed legal language that specifies exactly what will be done for the job. In this contract, one should also include a section on Cancellation Fees, Late Payment Fees, and other ways that will protect you from clients. Reference the Graphic Artists Guild Pricing & Ethical Guidelines handbook for more information on these topics. Every designer should have this book!!!
Look, the situation is simple.
We contacted Sergey to commission work. He said he was available, so we responded great, this is what we are thinking and gave him an general idea. Then we asked when he was available for a conference call for us to to give him a formal brief, discuss pricing, timelines and his work structure. He responded that he could not communicate via phone because of a language barrier. We responded that we fully understand, appreciate his time, but we felt like without a "sit down" we wouldn't be able to effectively illustrate our vision, which we obviously felt was important. We thanked him for his time, but unfortunately we would have to pass. The next day we received an email with the logo in question attached. We thanked him again and expressed that this was definitely not the direction we were shooting for.
This was not a "contest." We did not ask for a proof without payment. This is literally out of the blue/left field.
All I ask, rightfully so, is to please REMOVE my name as you have no right to use it, period. I don't think I'm asking too much nor do I think anyone on this forum would be thrilled with the idea of me, or someone else taking their logo or name, redesigning it and placing it on a public forum. Just that simple.
I appreciate your humor in all of this Sergey, but lets not underrate professionalism.
@Atomicvibe: Great great book, and a great rundown of good business practice in design!
@kz0007: Language barriers have obviously played a big part in all of this, and continue to do so. From what you are saying, it sounds like you handled the situation perfectly and have a great respect for this profession, and this is backed up by how you're acting in regards to the situation now. Thanks for being such a good, professional (and rare) client!
very nice :o)
wow! awesome! )))
by the way, it's name of Dexter's boat :D
^:))) Thanx. I agree
weird just enough
great design, but a bit sick :)
sorry, it happened:)
I for one love this concept idea! The provocation in this design just gives that creative edge. Wonderfully done by the way! Superb result.
Once again, Sergey, both yours and Dan's are exceptionally executed, bravo!
Nice.. I want me some cow now :)
Ha ha ha
I agree that two cows are better than one:)))
Yes, yes Agencija:)
Don't change name!! I support you Sergey and the logo its fantastico!!!
rather odd the client says this is 100% NOT the direction they were looking for yet danny's translation is the identical concept. his a bit easier to "swallow" because of the lack of color in the slice maybe. both excellent. both 100% what the client seemed to ask for.
^^what logoboom said. I am very confused.
You just made me hungry.. Great logo and amazing details.. Thumbs up :)
beutifull design., perfect colors!!
Like this cheerful work, You have a great style!
It's just a joke:)
Good joke :)
illustration is quite cool
Awesome illustration man!
Thank you David
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