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Don't mind critiques, but I'm not actively looking for them
- Ed's Electric
- by Siah-Design
- proposal for local electrical company...
- Number of views: 23418
- Date Submitted: Dec. 09 '08
Dec. 09 '08
THEArtistT said:This is fantastic but have you looked around to see if there are any similar designs out there? I would be surprised if there weren't any. But I would also be surprised if they are executed near as well as yours. Great job.
Dec. 09 '08
epsilon said:Very cool use of negative space. Very simple and clean looking too. Floated.
THEArtisT has a point though - I'd check for dupes.
Dec. 11 '08
gyui said:i just wanted to offer my congrats too siah-design, really nice, clean logo!:)
Dec. 20 '08
firebrand said:That's unfortunate.
http://www.autobloggreen.com/photos/mini-e-2/1167303/
Jan. 23 '09
kitchen said:I think you did a good execution, but the logo was created for "ED Milan" by famous designer Gianni Bortolotti.
http://www.studio-bortolotti.it/ed.html
Feb. 11 '09
maxrho said:love the logo, but cmon, you never saw http://www.studio-bortolotti.it/ed.html before? ya right :D
Feb. 11 '09
Brandsimplicity said:That is the first time I have seen that...I've been doing this for 15 year ...sometimes with designs such as these the simpleness of the design is also a designers curse...bugger it's been done before:D
Feb. 12 '09
Relevant said:^I'm going on 10 years and I've never seen that logo. We all need to calm down with accusations and just make each other aware of similarities in cases like these.
Feb. 12 '09
THEArtistT said:ClimaxDesigns is absolutely right. When I went to college for commercial design, our instructor had an ego the size of DC. We only saw his work the whole time. I also went to school back in the 80s when commercial art being taught was new so there weren't a lot of books available (we used none) for instructors to access. I was never taught trends or styles and we only had SuperPaint and FreeHand to design in. The instructor would give you an entity name and you came up with something. If the instructor like it you got a good grade, if not you got a bad grade. You hoped your instructor had a good imagination and liked you. Until I started reading the Graphic Designer newsletter a couple of years ago, I had never heard of any 'famous' designers before.
Feb. 12 '09
THEArtistT said:Check it out to be sure. I agree that if the industries are not related and they are used in different locations/countries, you should be good.
Apr. 03 '09
bcreative said:I keep coming back to this. The other logos are similar but this logo has a real concept behind it which is lacking in the examples mentioned. Spot on!
May. 05 '09
tomokeefe said:I'm late on this topic....
for starters it took me 1 google search to find the other logo so I find it hard to believe for one minute that Siah did not see this logo before. With that said...
When I look at both logos side-by-side I feel that the same designer did both. The over-all concepts are the same. 1 is more clever then the other. The ED %u2013 Elettro Domestici version is the more clever one. It feels that this logo shown here was a earlier version of the other logo. Unless Siah came out with his concept first I don't buy into that he never seen this before.
ok lets play pretend for a minute for the sake of discussion on Siah's logo.
I think it's distracting to have both plugs on each side. I feel that it could of been simplified and to me it doesn't read "ED" it reads "E" and if i were to take the plug to be "D" then it would read as "DED"
I think the Elettro Domestici logo concept much nicer and clever as well as brilliant.
Sorry.
Tom
May. 05 '09
epsilon said:> I don't buy into that he never seen this before.
In other words he is lying. Just say it as is. Damn the niceties. Go for the balls.
May. 05 '09
tomokeefe said:Epsilon--
Maybe he didn't in fact see it. I still find that hard to believe since the first thing i would of done in the beginning is do a Google search on the name to see if anyone else there did a "ED" or "ED ELECTRIC" logo. Why? Hmm it's called researching and at least to find out what others in the same space have done? Could i be wrong? YES! Could I be right? YES! Look at both side-by-side they look like the same person did both. Just one is better then the other in MY OPINION. ;)
May. 05 '09
theartistt said:tomokeefe, I designed a pretty complicated logo the other day. now I did do the research and unfortunately found an almost exact version already out there. I can tell you, for sure, there was absolutely no way I could have seen that other logo (a Japanese Military logo of all things). Yet I practically designed an exact replica. And that is not he only time that has happened with me. I designed a logo for a construction company and did a quick search through the trademark site and found the exact same concept (not as well executed) used by a spa in the same damn town.
This is a very simple concept and design. I stated above I would have been surprised if the idea hadn't already been designed. I would bet there are more than what you can find through a simple internet search, actually. Yes, Siah should have done some research before presenting this logo, but you are deliberately being divisive by accusing Siah of knowingly copying anyone else's design. This kind of thing happens all the time and it will happen to you if it hasn't already.
May. 05 '09
logomotive said:Siah, dont'; bother with this guy. Save your breath for your band my man.
May. 06 '09
tomokeefe said:ok Siah--
If you never seen it before then fine. done.
Logomotive...zipit.
theartistt--
"deliberately being divisive by accusing Siah of knowingly copying anyone else's design."
-What I said was that i find it hard to believe since it took me seconds to find it when I searched the name. I also stated that I could be wrong.
So without sounding like a big mean jerk I have very strong opinions about stuff like this. I'm not new to the game I'm going on about 16yrs and when I see something like this I do get pretty annoyed.
Also you will be surprised what could of happen if both companies ran with the logo. Oh the legal battles is something you would never want to have to deal with. the money, stress, and time it will take to end the legal horror it could bring.
Your right sometime designers come up with something that someone else did without any knowledge of either. I understand that. All I pointed out is that I searched for the name and found that logo before Siah's logo and within the first couple of results. It was that simple. That's all. So in MY OPINION I found it hard to believe that I was the only person that found it and or thought this.
for the record I CAN BE WRONG!
:) How's that? better? Cool. Done.
--Tom
May. 06 '09
theartistt said:Tom, it's cool. I accused a Logopond member of a rip once and to my embarrassment found he had been ripped, not the other way around. I'm just a bit more careful about such things now. I mean the community here at Logopond is pretty tight. Speaking of research, for example, reading some posts around Logopond would have made that obvious. And the question of this, Siah's, design and the other one had already been discussed in this thread. That is why it appeared to me (and others) that the way you phrased your initial post was deliberately divisive.
And for the record, several of us have been in the business longer than you have. Logomotive Mike for one. And I would have to say Mike knows just a little bit about being ripped off. Read around and you will see.
May. 06 '09
tomokeefe said:theartistt --
I would HOPE people have been in the business longer then me. I didn't say that thinking or assuming that I have been in the business longer then everyone on this site. LOL!!!!!
I know this topic was discussed regarding the other logo. Right above in this thread it was mentioned. If "YOU" read the first few words on my comment it should of made it clear that "I'm late on this topic...."
Also I speak from experience as well... The legal battles can be pretty intense.
Like i said if he never seen the other logo until someone brought it to his attention on this site, then fine. He never found it and everyone else did. Ok I get it. That's cool.
It's Dropped.
May. 13 '09
epsilon said:Lookie, lookie .. just bumped into Electrical Digest logo while flipping through LogoLounge 2 book. So is it an egg and Elettro Domestici is a chicken or is it the other way around ?
Aug. 01 '09
zooley said:The hegative space on your logo is more pronounced. Very clever and simple. Great work.
... and as you said: the world is so small sometimes...
regards, zoli
Oct. 13 '09
premal123 said:sorry but have already seen this b4.
http://38one.com/images/blog/casestudies/ed/ED-elettrodomestici.jpg
http://blog.corporatelogos.ws/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/ed-elettrodomestici.jpg
Nov. 02 '09
Chad Sanderson said:Wow. Apparently I'm on my A game today. http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=11609181897
Unfortunately I'm not sure how to leave a message, or I would already.
Nov. 02 '09
lundeja said:I messaged him back in March. His response to me was not so nice. Every other word was a swear word.
Nov. 25 '09
ideoma said:http://www.studio-bortolotti.it/graphic/ed.jpg
i just found this on a italian site! has the world gets more globalized our ideas become common, yours make more sense because it has a double meaning beeing a word and at the same time an eletric plug
Nov. 25 '09
lundeja said:^ That has been posted in this comment thread about 60 times now. I think he's aware of it at this point.
Dec. 03 '09
cvillelli said:WOW! I was staring at it for at least a minute trying to find the "genius" about it, then it hit me like a freight train! Looks great!
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Dec. 09 '08
reddskinn said:It's a great concept