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Don't mind critiques, but I'm not actively looking for them
- Kageboden
- by minusfront
- Mark for a bakery in Denmark. Warm, earthy tones to match the subject and the client-requested wheat stalk contained in a roundel. *Edit* Image updated to show new, bolder monochrome direction as well as changes to typography and opening up of the wheat symbol.
- Number of views: 1043
- Dated Submitted: Jul. 14 '08
- Added to Gallery: Jul. 18 '08
Jul. 15 '08
vonster said:Yeah really solid mark considering someone else already figured it out before you decided to rip it off and post it as your own well conceived design.
http://artbackwash.blogspot.com/2008/06/finishing-strong.html
BTW, I've already notified the ones whose equity you're clearly spinning off of.
Jul. 15 '08
Relevant said:Oh, please. Concentric circles? That's the extent of the "rip-off"? Let's notify Target while we're at it.
(Baseless accusations really bug me.)
Jul. 15 '08
hindmarshdesign said:vonster you're being a bit harsh no? Have you contacted minusfront (Dean) first before accusing him in a cynical, bitter post?
Jul. 15 '08
gthobbs said:I don't think we can actually know who conceived type on a circle. But I'm betting it first appeared on a coin a long, long, long time ago. Ease up there vonster. Draw the parallel but pull back on the knife just a tad.
Jul. 15 '08
borinagge said:so that mean Target, Starbucks, Barack Obama, The Boston Red Sox and so many other brands are in trouble......
Jul. 16 '08
minusfront said:Wow %u2013 I didn't think this would generate ANY controversy! If anything I thought it was a bit bland and generic...
I have contacted Vonster personally to explain how the logo arrived at it's current incarnation and clear up any confusion as to copyright dramas.
Jul. 16 '08
OcularInk said:Yea, I agree, great update. And minusfront, you have nothing to worry about with that other logo. This one stands on it's own.
Jul. 16 '08
sdijock said:Vonster - Put the mouse down and slowly back away from the computer...
As gthobbs said, type on a circle isn't really that unique of a concept. I think the logo-police will let him go without so much as a warning on this one.
Jul. 16 '08
hindmarshdesign said:yeah nice update!
Jul. 18 '08
darrel said:"If anything I thought it was a bit bland and generic."
It is...but...in a good way, as odd as that sounds. It has a hip '80s-slash-European' vibe to it. I think the orange seals it as not being dated, but 'modern nostalgic'. Not sure if that makes sense, but that's the best I can explain. Bottom line, nice!
Also, WTF Von?
Jul. 18 '08
ClimaxDesigns said:"It is...but...in a good way, as odd as that sounds. It has a hip '80s-slash-European' vibe to it. I think the orange seals it as not being dated, but 'modern nostalgic'. Not sure if that makes sense, but that's the best I can explain. Bottom line, nice!"
That makes total sense that's kinda what I saw in it but Russian seithish.
Jul. 18 '08
darrel said:OK, to be fair to Von, this appears to be an updated version. So perhaps the original was a tad too close to something else. Hard to say without seeing the original, though.
Jul. 18 '08
Relevant said:I saw the original and I vouch for it. Beige circles don't constitute a rip.
Jul. 18 '08
koodoz said:[quote]It is...but...in a good way, as odd as that sounds. It has a hip '80s-slash-European' vibe to it. I think the orange seals it as not being dated, but 'modern nostalgic'. Not sure if that makes sense, but that's the best I can explain. Bottom line, nice![/quote]
It's weird that it sounds odd because you are totally right. I also got a Dutch/Amsterdam retro vibe from this logo because of the Orange.
Well done minusfront!
Jul. 18 '08
clashmore said:Just Googled "Kageboden." This was for a contest. And it wasn't chosen. Argh.
Jul. 23 '08
vonster said:Late posters to this thread "Assume" the logo that is now showing in this post is the SAME logo that was originally posted. It is not. I suppose I should have taken a screen shot or pulled a copy of it off the site but I didn't.
So all of you who are "Shocked" or think I was a bit harsh are just late to the game.
Just so you all know as well, I wasn't the one who called this out. I was emailed by other designers who felt it was clearly borrowed equity. The originating design firm who I did the iconography for felt the same way. So contrary to what "Relevant" has said the concern was relevant.
If indeed the creator thought the mark was just a mere happenstance with no nefarious intentions I find it at least a little bit odd that he would then contradict that conviction and post an edited and revised version now?
Anyway that's the full scoop.
Jul. 24 '08
clashmore said:I saw the original. It was similar, but not an obvious ripoff.
And you have nothing to worry about, Vonster. It was for a silly contest, and it didn't win (9th entry on Google search for "kageboden").
Jul. 24 '08
Relevant said:I stand by my assessment. Beige concentric circles. How many times have those been used by designers throughout the years? Vonster does not have a copyright on beige concentric circles. Icon aren't even the same, never saw a wheat stalk on one of Vonster's. ;)
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Jul. 14 '08
grubedoo said:Solid mark