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by Logomotive • Uploaded: Sep. 22 '12 - Gallerized: Mar. '14

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Description: Logo for a CRM business. Client wanted a hint of Japanese feel and convey Intelligent Automation. I used the rising sun as my inspiration.
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firebrand Sep. 23 '12

Mike, hope you don't mind me saying but isn't this flag associated with the Japanese military?

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logomotive Sep. 23 '12

@ Roy the rising sun?

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logomotive Sep. 23 '12

Roy I guess? I think any country could be associated with that though. I don't think it's as much of a negative connotation as it might have been in the past though.
Thanks Richard.

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ricardobarroz Sep. 23 '12

Rising Sun Flag (Present-day perception)

The flag is considered offensive in countries which were victims of Japanese aggression, specifically in China and the Koreas,[5][6] where it is considered to be associated with Japanese militarism and imperialism. During the 2008 Beijing Olympics, Japanese fans were warned not to fly the flag as it would cause offense and trouble with the Chinese.[7][8] In Japan itself the flag is sometimes seen at sporting events and protests by extreme right-wing groups.[9] The Rising Sun flag also appears on commercial product labels, such as on the cans of one variety of Asahi Breweries lager beer.[10] The design is also incorporated into the flag of the Japanese newspaper Asahi Shimbun as well as banners called TairyD-ki (大F01eD7 Good Catch Flag?) flown by fishermen.

Wikipedia,

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logomotive Sep. 23 '12

Well hope their clients are most not Korean or Chinese then. We had a World war with them but do much business now.

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Hayes Image Sep. 23 '12

Although I think it's reasonable to be concerned of images with a dark past, it would be fair to say that there are probably some areas of the world that would take offence to a logo featuring stars & stripes or a Union Jack, but (as Mike stated) We were once at war with likes of Germany & Japan, now they're business partners, Afganistan, etc. may well be too down the road. Does it 'shout' the rising sun flag though? In monochrome black that connection would be lost, the Macedonian flag has a similar design (see link);

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4994974648436139&id=3344063bdfd9771f442a1865bba037ac

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ClimaxDesigns Sep. 23 '12

you read ... and believe wikipedia ... :D

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logomotive Sep. 24 '12

Josh, I was thinking the same thoughts. You make a valid point.

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nido Sep. 24 '12

maybe if I word it different..

The K has a slight wave to the top bit that sticks out... was that intentional?

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Hayes Image Sep. 24 '12

^ Being censored bud??

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ClimaxDesigns Sep. 24 '12

nido email me whats going on

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nido Sep. 25 '12

@hayes... perhaps a glitch... nothing untoward in what I was attempting to say

@CD... sent.

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Hayes Image Sep. 25 '12

I figured as much, said it purely in jest :)

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nido Sep. 25 '12

^ooh you funny 'censored' guy you... ;)

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logomotive Sep. 26 '12

Maybe I'll just paint it Orange or Blue and it will all be OK?

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logomotive Sep. 26 '12

See not so bad now is it?

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ColinTierney Sep. 26 '12

actually, surprisingly that helps.

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Carlove Sep. 27 '12

Strong and interesting sign, but firebrand is right.

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logomotive Sep. 28 '12

Just because it's RED?

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logomotive Sep. 28 '12

See the Orange version.

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chanpion Sep. 28 '12

The besieging grudge matches between China and Japan stemming from their short but horrific regime of China right up to the Pinnacle Island debacle are honestly imo tiresome. Not dissimilar to the ridiculous 'violent film review' of a Bgrade movie by a selective group of over sensitive Muslims. The extremist protesters be they anti or pro would grab any chance they get to express their views.

My ancestors went through the horrors of the Nanking Massacre but let history be history. The origins of the Rising Sun was never intended for aggression or evil. Being Chinese, I'm not inclined to printing out this logo and burning it any time soon. Or anytime for that matter.

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LOGOMOTIVE Sep. 28 '12

They BURN MY USA flag!!! But I still will design with Red white and blue and stars and stripes!. I guess it all depends on your target audience. I don't get my panties in a bunch about it. Funny how just a COLOR can make a major difference.

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LOGOMOTIVE Sep. 28 '12

People getting stuck on something that can easily be changed to make a big difference. Imagine your Color Blind??? who would you see it???

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chanpion Sep. 28 '12

Very true Mike. It all comes down to the target demographics. I'm sure my great grandparents or their offspring (may they rest in peace) will be interested in anything to do with a CRM business in automation.

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cnasshan Sep. 28 '12

ON TOPICS OTHER THAN JAPANESE FLAGS AND COLOR:

I noticed the beams are slightly staggered on the vertical axis, didn't know if that was offset on purpose to balance it out or not, but I get distracted with it. Also, the top three beams have an illusion to extend farther out than the beams on the side(even though I know they end on the same point line). Just my vision.

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ricardobarroz Sep. 29 '12

Yesterday I asked a Japanese friend! She said that this symbolism is very positive for japan! But for some Chinese is considered offensive! Only for a few! It's not as strong as you think... :)

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firebrand Sep. 29 '12

Ever regret starting something?

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logomotive Sep. 29 '12

Yeah Roy, you know how to start a war :)

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