@Mikeymike - Cheers Mike! Thanks again for the help in the monogram dept. ;)
kathariney said on
Mar. 02 '10
nice to see how this turn out. by the way, don't you think it might be a bit more natural to read if the "london" faces to the right? just wondering...
cause right now, when i'm reading "DEBUT" from left to right, the flow is like shouting out from the arches, but to read "London", the flow goes opposite. curious if that contrast reading direction is what you intended.
As far as the orientation of 'London' > I get what you're saying with the flow, but I think what it comes down to has more to do with a natural read (like you said)...
However, if you think about how you'd have to read it were it facing left...you'd be reading 'Debut' from (Left to > Right), then when you hit 'London' you actually have to (tilt < left) against the flow to read it properly.
Vertical text is always tricky, and in most cases I actually try to avoid it... However when I have to, in terms of achieving maximum readability, I think it simply comes down to the fact that the most natural read for most people is generally going to be ('Right to Left' & 'Top to Bottom').
In terms of the conceptual execution of the direction, I think it's really not much of a stretch either way. Again, I think it simply comes down to how much you have to tilt your head... ;)
kathariney said on
Mar. 02 '10
hahah yea, interesting discussion. also when I'm holding a photo with both hand, it's more natural for me to tilt the photo by rotating it clockwise with my right hand (pulling the pic towards me with my right hand). that's why this issue jumps out to me right away ;)
Oh, since this word isn't too long, another possible way is without tilting your head, just let it reads:
L
O
N
D
O
N
But then in terms of the flow of reading, it might become a "wall" to stop the flow right there.
@Thrasher317 - Cheers! (Might be a bit of a pause on the whole set, given that I'm away for a bit later this month) But I'll be sure to post a link as soon as I'm done! ;)
@milou - Thanks a lot buddy! :)
@absoludicrous - I'm with you Tony > But simply to clarify... >> @nitish.b - I'll post a 'flipped' version, just so everyone can contrast & compare... ;)
@anthony, well not that you have to literally tilt your head in order to read it. but what i pointed out is how the direction of the text direct your eyes to read. DEBUT( --->) London facing left (<---).
@michael: wohoo. now the flow of reading the mark is --->--->
personally i think it reads better cause it seems to fit with the orange shape better. Orange shape is like shouting out from the tunnel, and the flow of the words is doing the same now.
I have to say both ways works fine. but it's a better of which impression you want.
the ---> <--- way , some (includes me) might find it unatural, but some might find it interesting.
the --->---> as i've said, that's the way my eyes wants to read
btw, what to you think about making the contrast of the sizing of each letter slightly more obvious?and i like how you bolded "UPDATED" hehe.
kathariney said on
Mar. 03 '10
not know why part of my message was gone.... :
but what i pointed out is how the direction of the text direct your eyes to read. DEBUT[ --->] London facing left [<---].
@nitish.b - Ha! Actually working away on it as I type... ;)
I'm going to be out of town for most of March > so the project's probably going to trail into April... But I can't wait to get the whole package together!
So I've got a preliminary (WIP) ID set for this guy floating around on FLICKR if anyone wants to have a quick look ;)
The letterhead & card have gone to print > Card's getting a raised white print job on the reverse...can't wait to see how it turns out! Additional dark & orange stationary material still in the queue (this is the corporate set for the moment). Web launch still to come...
Thanks again for all the feedback guys! Cheers!! :)
Mikeymike said on Mar. 02 '10
michaelspitz said on Mar. 02 '10
kathariney said on Mar. 02 '10
cause right now, when i'm reading "DEBUT" from left to right, the flow is like shouting out from the arches, but to read "London", the flow goes opposite. curious if that contrast reading direction is what you intended.
michaelspitz said on Mar. 02 '10
As far as the orientation of 'London' > I get what you're saying with the flow, but I think what it comes down to has more to do with a natural read (like you said)...
However, if you think about how you'd have to read it were it facing left...you'd be reading 'Debut' from (Left to > Right), then when you hit 'London' you actually have to (tilt < left) against the flow to read it properly.
Vertical text is always tricky, and in most cases I actually try to avoid it... However when I have to, in terms of achieving maximum readability, I think it simply comes down to the fact that the most natural read for most people is generally going to be ('Right to Left' & 'Top to Bottom').
In terms of the conceptual execution of the direction, I think it's really not much of a stretch either way. Again, I think it simply comes down to how much you have to tilt your head... ;)
kathariney said on Mar. 02 '10
Oh, since this word isn't too long, another possible way is without tilting your head, just let it reads:
L
O
N
D
O
N
But then in terms of the flow of reading, it might become a "wall" to stop the flow right there.
michaelspitz said on Mar. 02 '10
'It's all about the flowwwww man...' ;)
Ha! Now, I feel like I should go rake some sand & drink some tea...
OcularInk said on Mar. 03 '10
Thrasher317 said on Mar. 03 '10
milou said on Mar. 03 '10
nitish.b said on Mar. 03 '10
Chad Sanderson said on Mar. 03 '10
michaelspitz said on Mar. 03 '10
@Thrasher317 - Cheers! (Might be a bit of a pause on the whole set, given that I'm away for a bit later this month)
But I'll be sure to post a link as soon as I'm done! ;)
@milou - Thanks a lot buddy! :)
@absoludicrous - I'm with you Tony > But simply to clarify... >>
@nitish.b - I'll post a 'flipped' version, just so everyone can contrast & compare... ;)
michaelspitz said on Mar. 03 '10
michaelspitz said on Mar. 03 '10
Fresh eyes after a looooong night, and I think I too am leaning your way ;)
Cheers!
michaelspitz said on Mar. 03 '10
kathariney said on Mar. 03 '10
@michael: wohoo. now the flow of reading the mark is --->--->
personally i think it reads better cause it seems to fit with the orange shape better. Orange shape is like shouting out from the tunnel, and the flow of the words is doing the same now.
I have to say both ways works fine. but it's a better of which impression you want.
the ---> <--- way , some (includes me) might find it unatural, but some might find it interesting.
the --->---> as i've said, that's the way my eyes wants to read
btw, what to you think about making the contrast of the sizing of each letter slightly more obvious?and i like how you bolded "UPDATED" hehe.
kathariney said on Mar. 03 '10
but what i pointed out is how the direction of the text direct your eyes to read. DEBUT[ --->] London facing left [<---].
michaelspitz said on Mar. 03 '10
A fresh set of eyes is always a good idea. Cheers! :)
eziemac said on Mar. 05 '10
Mikeymike said on Mar. 05 '10
cake_sama said on Mar. 05 '10
Type08 said on Mar. 05 '10
michaelspitz said on Mar. 05 '10
Really happy this made the gallery!
Definitely put some time & thought into this one, and it's excellent to see the positive response.
As always > I can't thank everyone enough for keeping up with me along way!
Thanks again guys!
chirp said on Mar. 05 '10
michaelspitz said on Mar. 05 '10
ethereal said on Mar. 05 '10
michaelspitz said on Mar. 05 '10
sbj said on Mar. 05 '10
Nice ending man....
michaelspitz said on Mar. 06 '10
nitish.b said on Mar. 06 '10
michaelspitz said on Mar. 07 '10
I'm going to be out of town for most of March > so the project's probably going to trail into April...
But I can't wait to get the whole package together!
Thanks again my man! Cheers! :)
michaelspitz said on Apr. 09 '10
So I've got a preliminary (WIP) ID set for this guy floating around on FLICKR if anyone wants to have a quick look ;)
The letterhead & card have gone to print > Card's getting a raised white print job on the reverse...can't wait to see how it turns out! Additional dark & orange stationary material still in the queue (this is the corporate set for the moment). Web launch still to come...
Thanks again for all the feedback guys! Cheers!! :)
Hayes Image said on Apr. 09 '10
ethereal said on Apr. 09 '10
Michaelspitz said on Apr. 10 '10
michaelspitz said on Apr. 11 '10
Posted the site link > Not live yet, but as I understand she's gettin' there... ;)
www.DebutLondon.co.uk
eziemac said on Apr. 11 '10
michaelspitz said on Apr. 11 '10
myway999 said on Apr. 11 '10
michaelspitz said on Apr. 11 '10
mcguire design said on Apr. 22 '10
michaelspitz said on Apr. 22 '10
JoePrince said on Apr. 29 '10
michaelspitz said on Apr. 29 '10
The physical signage is actually being produced right now...
Can't wait to see it all finished & backlit!
Cheers buddy!
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