LogoPond

hmm well i really gotta ask after seeing some of the other pieces, are some of those just for client view and if so what purpose do they server, because logo type doesn't always fit into the nest of the ruled edge and in some pics the circlature it didn't even fit the type properly, is that something that is 'just done' and if so to what end, and if not, whats the purpose of doing it?

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Yes, i was surmissing the same thing as Anthony. My feelings fall completely into what Raja said, but I was wondering if it was soley a sales ploy. I cant say that I am invested in that ploy, but I do understand that about 90% of identity design is the sale pitch to the client.

I was jsut posing the question, not saying that its right or wrong. jsut trying to verify if i had missed something over the years :D or if it was indeed something as of late that is shown to help sell the piece. For my part though i think the best selling part is to plaster it up on a wall in black and white and hand then some color permutations maybe some signage/usage pics and then start the sale pitch :D

Really Julian... I tend to pose these types of questions on peoples logos who i feel have a certain maturity level and ability to debate the issue. Seemingly i was mistaken with this one.

Anthony, I'm not confusing maturity with humor, they do go hand in hand but anyway that's not the point. Whatever humorist value this may have, its no longer gallery material. Your logo was given a spot in the gallery because it was a great example of type design. The added grid simply makes this noise now.

You are 110% in control of and have every right to upload whatever you want. And I'm in charge of making judgment calls on what stays in the gallery.

Or maybe I should run the site how I see fit? I don't really see how the atmosphere was stuffy. Im not going to stop and personally email people to find out their intentions every time something happens that I disagre with. Either I let it go or I take an action on it, I took the action of removing the logo in this case

Julian emailed me about this and i think its fair to post my response here, i wont post what he sent me cause it was addressed to me, but my response is broad enough of an answer. Hopefully as i reside as the site villain you all will at least see the method to my 'madness'.

"Like I posted on the site I'm not going to stop and send out personal emails to everyone who i think i need to take action on, on the site. As far as being fair or not, to me its not a matter of being fair or unfair. You got a gallery spot based on the look and feel of your logo, you decided to take a crack at some humor about the conversation in uploading a different logo that now doesn't represent the reason you got the logo in the gallery in the first place.

I removed said logo because now it doesn't represent nice typography now it represents your take at a joke at the comments made way down the list, something most people visiting the logo will most likely not see or if they see may not get, or even if they do see it and get it, their first impression will still more often than not be, 'why the hell is this in the gallery'.

I was simply trying to have a semi serious discussion /debate on the issue of using such measure in branding and finding out the reasoning behind it, which for whatever reason devolved to the point of you changing out the image. Im not sure how else to put it, its not anything personal against you, im not upset or mad as some may lead you to believe, i just don't think the logo in its current state belongs in the gallery anymore.

Do i have a funny bone sure i do, can i laugh at situations like this sure i can, did i get the 'joke' this time, admittedly not, but the fact remains that beyond me not getting the joke the logo is now noisy and you can barely see its beauty because of that noise. If you change it back i have no issue placing it back in the gallery."

^^^, and to add to that, if its custom type then yeah i can see you using the guides and circles but if you are doing it after the fact, then ok at that point you are using it as a sales pitch, which again i am not saying is right or wrong, hell if it gets you the check more power to you, just curious.