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hahahahahaaa!!!! AWESOME!

LMFAO

On unrelated subject - this is actually a pretty good logo :-)

I would do the same thing in your place, Mike.

I've only been partly keeping up with the artfox issue, but dude...this is nice! It's smart and explains more than the old one. Maybe if they purchase this, they could gain a tiny bit of respect back from the logopond/design community.

Floated!

One must be careful choosing a side in a subjective matter. This ain't a subjective matter. Dache crossed a line and so far has refused to step back over to his side.

We like MIKE! We like MIKE!

well, if one were raised right, they would know you do yelling and apologies in private first.

smART!!

MarkingTime, there are points in your post I agree with, but there are two points I would like to debate.

First is the part about Mike's red fox logo looking like a rip of another was debated to ad nauseum a while ago. Mike has been in the biz a long time (almost as long as me). As was mentioned before, one look at his portfolio and you would know Mike would never rip. He doesn't need to. Has never needed to. Besides he had no prior connection to that blog or anyone in it. Neither were influenced by the other and so neither could have sued the other for copyright infringement. A very basic case of minds thinking alike. It happens to everyone. So going back to that is not relevant to the issue about Dache's apparent rip.

The issue with Dache is that he and Mike have been members of LogoPond for a long while. Both are aware of each other's portfolios. Both participate in LogoPond Forum. They hang out in similar online circles. There are several documented and dated instances where Dache was aware of Mike's logo and his liking of it well before he designed the Art Fox logo. Mike definitely had a case here.

The second point is your observation of Mike not being professional. Mike was not the original one to take umbrage with Dache's Art Fox logo. Mike's well meaning friends took it out of his hands to publicly air the slight from the get go. When Mike did make contact himself, Art Fox was already commenting publicly on the issue. So your outline of how to respond in a professional manner was/is moot.

As for Mike's current issue with Dache and Art Fox not apologizing in private first, well I think he'll have to go without. All was made too public from the start and therefore is ending in the same way. But as a passionate graphic designer, it is going to take Mike a bit longer than the art/design community as a whole to get over it.

Take your time Mike.

Nice responses THEArtisT and Tonfue!

And Happy Belated Birthday Mike!

-- fellas, don't feed the troll --

"Remember, once you sell ME a logo design, it is mine to use (or not use) as I see fit in my wisdom (or more likely, my stupidity) Why should it change now?"

This is not entirely true. It depends on the type of copyright release form you agree with the designer. Until you have a agreed and signed upon FULL COPYRIGHT RELEASE FORM the designer can limit your usage and profits. :)

@mark I think you are misunderstanding what I was trying to say...